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Magniwork Magnetic Generator Scam Fraud

The magnetic generator they describe claims to generate power by the use of permanent magnets only -- but like all perpetual motion machines, describes the impossible.

Fake Generator

The image above is from the Magniwork manual. Here is the same image again from another site . Obviously, they aren't very original - just a rehashed scam. Here is an archived pdf copy of the likely original in case the free site goes down.

Ro-Mag generator

 

The booklet starts out well enough, describing the looming energy shortage and listing ways to reduce energy consumption. There are no obvious problems here.

It also contains typical conspiracy themes, “All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.” and "In this book you will learn how to construct another alternative source of energy, which has not reached the mainstream media yet. But with time this energy will be widely accepted and used. This is geared towards "suspension of disbelief".

The lunacy doesn't start until they lay out an elaborate text description of their "generator". For those of you with some electrical background, consider the following nonsense statements:

Note: There are many people in the free energy community that believe there are pools of energy wating to be tapped -- sort of like hydro power or wind, but out there in the ethers somewhere. They then argue that their machines are not "perpetual motion" machines because they are simply being driven by this new energy source. That could be the origin of the "earth's pressure flow" statement. Also note that no such energy source has ever been found, nor are there unexplained scientific problems that have us looking for such a force.

Adding specific fake details is a common technique to make things appear legitimate. The text is full of small details that are often true, leading you to agree with the statements and distracting from the fact that is no more valid than a design for "Home brew warp-coils for interstellar travel" or a Klingon cloaking device.

Any time you see a design like this, note that it will not spin by itself without a power input -- which is probably why Magniwork states it needs to be "charged" by spinning it up to speed. The power has to come from somewhere (e.g. wind turbine or some other mechanical means of rotating the shaft. "Earth's pressure flow" is a meaningless concept and bogus source of energy to drive the generator. Even if you didn't draw the power off the generator, frictional forces will slow it down and it will stop in a minute or less depending on the quality of the bearings.

There is an entire delusional community centered around "free energy devices", all of which involve some perversion of science. If you search the net, you are likely to find many glowing reviews. Don't let these override your common sense.

This scam is closely related to the Earth4Energy (review here) and likely created by the same scammers. Many of the illustrations have striking similarities. Consider the following collage (upper left from magniwork, lower right from earth4energy).

Earth4Energy similar to Magniwork

 

So, it all looks like an elaborate scam network ... update: same picture above in the latest mutation of this scam, called "magnets 4 energy". Magnets 4 energy is a scam.

To read more about ridiculous ideas that are often used as the basis of freen energy scams, have a look at The Mueseum of UnWorkable Ideas.

To report this scam, use the FTC consumer complaint assistant.

Comments:

It looks like getting a refund isn't always easy. Also, I don't think the burden of proof lies on me to prove it doesn't work, but on the creators of perpetual motion machines to prove that that do. Nobody has ever been able to demonstrate a working perpetual motion machine of any kind and many have tried. If you are into proving negatives, have a look at essay Thinking Tools YOU CAN PROVE A NEGATIVE.

I am not worried about litigation -- the power company that retains me to assist them in this grand conspiracy has retained legal council for me. How did you know I worked for a power company? Is it that obvious?

(these comments are from a series of e-mails from someone trying to get a refund)

It looks like i wont be getting a refund, I can't get an answer back on my email and my account is still down by the cost of this "book"

They have little pictures that don't really show anything. Still no refund!

There were no diagrams at all and they said that you could purchase everything you need from your local hardware store, but that's not true either. Some of that stuff is specialty.

 

name = phil stahla
email = eastside@xxx.com
comments = You say the magnetic generator is a scam.

Have you built one to verify that it doesn't work?

I haven't built one, but I haven't seen any information proving that it doesn't work, other than people or articles saying it can't work.

The powers that be kept this information from the public for a lot of years as it could affect their profits. Lot of money behind the naysayers.

Untill someone actually builds one and proves it doesn't work, I don't believe what you say. I also wonder what kind of liability you are incurring if your statements prove to be untrue.

I sell the magniwork plans as an affiliate marketer, and have had a very low refund rate.

There is a 60 day money back guarantee with all click bank products, no questions asked.

When you provide proof that you are not being paid off by the power companies to say these things, and after you have built a magniwork generator, and it does not work, then I will quit believing the magnetic generator doesn't work.

Be carefull of the things you put on the internet, as they can have an extreme monetary compensation plan that could affect your bank account in the extreme.

Phil Stahla
Magniwork believer and promoter.